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Magneto Movie
Hi all, it's good to be back on Nightscrawlers.
Magneto Movie news, which I find it necessary to post about because some hysterical nutballs won't stop screaming about how terrible this is. We've
got people posting on websites and message boards that if the movie isn't done the way THEY want it done, it's going to be terrible. We've got people
screaming hysterically about bogus movie plots, and even after they've been informed literally a 100 times that the sample plot is bogus, they
continue to scream.
What is most annoying is, some of these cracker-jacks are howling about the Magneto movie because -- get this -- it isn't going to be like the comic
books. Uh, earth to fan-nuts -- it's a movie, it's the X-MEN movieverse -- it isn't the same as the comic books. We in fact have been remarkably lucky
how well the original X-MEN film preserved Claremont's vision of the X-Men and especially our beloved Magneto. But any Magneto movie will be about the
Magneto who appears in the movies, not the comics. I was amazed to read plans by even (preveiously at least) rational fans saying they were going to
send X-Men comics to David Goyer. Geez, people, calm the heck down!
Now, we've gotten an update about the movie, from one of the co-producers Lauren Shuler Donner, and the screaming hysteria has started again, based on
-- a total misreading of the brief synopsis.
Reading comprehension can be our friend.
But don't let a lack of reading skills get in the way of obsessive ranting about the Magneto movie, repeating the same objections that were spewed
forth for the last two years, no matter what the source of the Magneto-movie-news is. Or how many times people try to point out the facts.
Here is the article from Empire Online:
| Quote: | X-Men Origins: Wolverine may be just a few months away from slashing its way into cinemas, but it’s taken a while for concrete developments to take
place on the other X-Men prequel, X-Men Origins: Magneto, which was announced around the same time as the Hugh Jackman starrer.
However, we spoke to its producer, the doyenne of the X-films, Lauren Shuler Donner, recently, and she confirmed that it’s still in the works. “I
think first we wanted to make Wolverine, and then David [Goyer, the attached director] took another film, and there wasn’t a lot of time,” she said.
“But I’d like to make that – we’ll have to see.”
Details of the plot have remained vague thus far, but Shuler Donner was happy to tell us shed a little light on things. “We have a script on Magneto
which is actually sort of Magneto and Charles Xavier,” she said. “It’s Erik and Charles in their early, early years.”
And, as if to further confirm that, the industry bible Production Weekly has added a synopsis for the Fox film, which suggests that Xavier “was a
soldier in the allied force that liberated the concentration camps” in which Magneto is interred at the beginning of Bryan Singer’s X-Men.
“The professor meets Magneto after the war and while they bond over the realisation that they are alike in their special powers, their differences
soon turn them into enemies.”
Sounds intriguing. The relationship between Xavier and Lehnsherr is one of the most successful elements of all three X-movies and, even though Patrick
Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen won’t be playing the young ‘uns, we’re still hugely excited by a movie detailing their early relationship. Fingers
crossed that Fox puts this on a fast track, but we suspect that Magneto’s fate will be determined by the extent of Wolverine’s success.
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http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23641
And here is the official synopsis, which I will point out, is not much different from the synopsis that has always appeared on IMDb, since the end of
2005.
| Quote: | Origins film began with a prologue that showed the character as a child being led to a concentration camp by Nazis and that is the period in which
the Magneto film will take place. This setup will allow a future villain to at least flirt with the designation of protagonist since the character
will be seen almost exclusively in his formative years.
The storyline will heavily involve Professor X, the wheelchair-using X-Men leader. That character was a soldier in the allied force that liberated the
concentration camps. The professor meets Magneto after the war and while they bond over the realisation that they are alike in their special powers,
their differences soon turn them into enemies. |
http://teaser-trailer.com/2008/11/david-goyer-magneto-movie-synopsi...
This is all there has ever been, from Sheldon Turner's original conception. David Goyer hasn't written a script yet. The bogus script that was
floating around the net months ago was bogus. I repeat, it was NOT REAL.
What is all the current screaming about? Given that synopsis above, there is nothing I can see to scream about. No one knows Magneto's Holocaust
history and history better than I do, and no one has worked harder for as many years to educate people about the same. But, you know, I have basic
reading skills that some other fans apparently lack. For example, the above plot synopsis says, Xavier was in the allied army that liberated
concentration camps. It says, he meets Magneto AFTER THE WAR. No where does it say, Xavier will be the one liberating the young Magneto. It just does
not say that.
To repeat, for anyone still confused. Xavier's character, in this film, will have served in WWII, in the allied forces, and was one of those who
liberated the camps with the allied forces. Magneto was in Auschwitz, and the synopsis doesn't say how he is liberated, or if he escapes (as the
comics show). The synopsis will be looking at the two characters in a parallel fashion, until their meeting -- let me repeat this, because some people
still might have trouble reading the English language -- they meet AFTER THE WAR. That's after the war is over. As in, they meet for the first time,
after the war.
At no time is it implied or stated or hinted that Xavier actually liberates Auschwitz with the American or British army. I'm wondering if people who
are reading the synopsis this way, have some serious self-esteem issues, so they have to invent a crisis and rant to get attention. Because that is
the only thing that makes any sense about the complaints.
For Xavier to bond with the young Auschwitz survivor, it makes sense to me that the former saw first hand what the camps were like when he liberated
Dachau and Belsen, etc. with the allied forces.
This is the same movie that was proposed nearly 3 years ago.
This is going to be a good movie, if David Goyer stops potzking around. Goyer has the potential to do a good job with the script, even if Arad and the
Donners might have to find a new director. I thought DARK KNIGHT was one of the best-written super hero movies ever, and Goyer wrote that.
So anyone reading this, please, if you can't get a word in edge-wise on message boards dominated by the screaming fan-nuts, rest assured, there is
nothing wrong with the proposed Magneto movie. I have been assured, moreover, by someone at FOX, that this movie is very much going to get made, and
the negative-nancies on the net will eventually see the truth of the matter. So don't worry.
Personally, I feel if Goyer feelsl conflicted, he should step aside from the role of director, and just concentrate on the script. My choice for
director is Tim Blake Nelson. He is an excellent actor, writer, and director. He won awards for his off-Broadway play THE GREY ZONE, and turned THE
GREY ZONE into a good movie (that shocked a lot of movie critics because it showed the dark side of the Auschwitz inmate -- the Sonderkommando -- and
they didn't know how to take this film.) More importantly, Tim Blake Nelson is a Marvel fan, and a long time Marvel reader, and he was most recently
in the Marvel Studios HULK film.
Goyer first became attached to the film in 2007.
| Quote: | By: Karl Schneider
Date: Friday, April 27, 2007
According to Variety, David Goyer has signed on to direct the upcoming X-Men spinoff, Magneto.
In the film, a young Magneto seeks revenge on the Nazis who killed his family while befriending a young Charles Xavier.
"It's the story of Magneto's life, and it will span some years," said producer Avi Arad.
Lauren Shuler Donner told USA Today that, a new actor will portray the younger Magneto, but Sir Ian McKellen will nevertheless reprise his role for
the film.
Goyer plans to alter a script for the film which was written by Sheldon Turner. |
You will note that Goyer says he planned to rewrite Mr. Turner's script, something that HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. So, yeah, any script that was
circulating on the net months ago purporting to be a Goyer draft was bogus.
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PirateKurt
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MAGNETO MOVIE!
Sweet! I am thinking about making a printmaking block 'Magneto is right' and printing it up using fabric ink and block printing! Lol. Any solid
news on a release date yet?
[Edited on 16/11/08 by PirateKurt]
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Paty
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I heard the dat bandied about as xometime in 2010 but can't confirm that totally...anyone else got any news about this ???
What with the TESTAMENT series that is on the stands now coming out, the earlly origins of Magneto... ala Claremont...seem to be being set in both
literature and cinematic stone... and about time, too.
While there may be some differences betwixt movie and books, ....there always IS when Hollywood is involved... the basic plotlines seem to indicate
a following of book canon at least to a serious degree.
I can only hope this will be so because Magneto as a complex character, as Claremont developed him, is soooooo much more interesting than Magneto as
a one dimensional ratbastard villain of the simmplistic early days of the genre.
Personally, I am looking forward to it!!!
Paty
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Magneto Rules!
Xavier drools!
Write support the Claremont Magneto! Cast a vote for complexity in characterization! And write to protest THE USELESS KILLING OF NIGHTCRAWLER
!!!
Write to :
Isaac Perlmutter , CEO at
Marvel Entertainment Inc.
10 th floor
417 Fifth Ave.
New York, NY 10016
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PirateKurt
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xmen 1,2,3 movies certainly seem to reflect a more complex Mags. X2 is my favorite for Fuzzy Blue reasons. But my personal opinion, best things in
x-3, Mags as a character, and the cameos by Chris and Stan;D 
I still don't buy whatever that was as phoenix. You never saw the bird or flame. So in my head .. the deleted scene where Rogue said no to the cure
was there. And that 'Jean' was Maddy Pryor. And Cyclops didn't get dsitintigrated away to reappear in Superman returns.
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