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Post by Shadow_Dancer » Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:01 pm

Here's a link to some preview pages of Uncanny #446.

Can't wait to see the rest. :D
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Post by scheherazade » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:42 am

Originally posted by Shadow_Dancer
Here's a link to some preview pages of Uncanny #446.

Can't wait to see the rest. :D
EEEK! now I can't wait to see what happens! *waits impatiently for wednesday*

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Post by Northstars Love » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:50 am

I can't wait either! Of course I still have 7 comics I haven't read. God, I'm so far behind. I spend way too much time on the PC. :P

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Post by Panz » Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:06 pm

:eek Now THAT'S nasty....A pox on that Claremont fellow for making me chew my nails in agitation. :LOL

Davis can REALLY cary the mood, can he not? :love
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Post by Shadow_Dancer » Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:01 am

My copy of UXM #446 came in the mail today. All I can say is Wow! I haven't enjoyed a story arc so much in years.

So glad to have Kurt, Ro and Logan back together again, and Davis' artwork is superb. :nodyes:thumbup
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Post by Diablo » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:24 pm

If you're a Kurt fan you just CAN'T dislike this issue !

The Kurt/Sage fight is just awesome !
Alan Davis loves Nightcrawler, and he shows it !

Ok, the plot wasn't really something more than a big fight, but it was highly enjoyable, nonetheless.

Seeing the Kurt/Ororo/Logan trio in action is INDEED impressive.
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Post by Northstars Love » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:41 pm

I agree! Great issue! I'm dieing to see what Sage has in mind for the Fury. Thanks Claremont/Davis! :thumbup


Did anyone get the feeling when Rachel flew in the air in flames that the [spoiler] Phoenix [/spoiler] would be coming back?

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:31 am

Sage processes data at speeds that put the fastest computer to shame.

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Post by mightiest_mortal » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:44 am

Originally posted by The Drastic Spastic
Sage processes data at speeds that put the fastest computer to shame.

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Dont most people? what with the seeing and hearing and stuff.
Id be kind of worried if she processed it at the same speed as a 486.
The preview looks a little same old same old. The furys taking over people and will probably try to make storm his Queen some time in the future no doubt.
Can the Fury telepathically control wires now then?... otherwise thats like somebody hacking into your computer and making wires grow out and take over the people on the computer. Aint really gonna happen.. unles Sage built mind controlling abilities into all the sunglasses, which is a little shady in itself.

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Post by KurtnMeggan » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:58 am

I thought this issue was superb and respond in kind with others that this has been perhaps the most enjoyable story on this book in years, thus far.

And yes, Alan Davis DOES love Kurt and CAN carry a mood. He and his colorist did amazing things this issue that really made the story stunning, without much having to happen.

And yes, the Storm/Wolverine/Nightcrawler interaction was priceless and reminded me why I loved them all in the past and had found them bland until recently. He just KNOWS hw to write these characters. If only Colossus had been there to round out the group:(:colossus:
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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:26 am

Originally posted by mightiest_mortal
Originally posted by The Drastic Spastic
Sage processes data at speeds that put the fastest computer to shame.
Dont most people? what with the seeing and hearing and stuff.
Id be kind of worried if she processed it at the same speed as a 486.
Ha! I wasn't even thinking of it that way. Just how Claremont can't go more than a couple hundred words without saying "puts to shame".

And the issue was same old same old, only with a hollow feel to it. IMO. It actually pissed me off when Kurt said [spoiler]"the Sage I remember worked for the Hellfire Club." You... you don't remember her!! She was NEVER FRICKING THERE. I hate the character (Sage) even more now because she's just one big stupid retcon.[/spoiler] I mean, I knew that before, but pointing it out with lines like that just makes it worse.

And since when is Kurt fighting without teleporting a big deal?? Eh?? Eh?? I didn't even realize it was meant to be confusing (until it was blatantly pointed out) as I've seen him do it dozens of times before. Now, Kurt fighting with, say, a gun. THAT would be a change in tactics. Ugh. Just ugh.

Extreme eloquence on the part of fellow posters convinced me last issue didn't suck. That won't be happening this time.
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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:35 am

Ooh, should just add really quick that I loved the art. The shot of Kurt [spoiler]holding all Sage's guns[/spoiler] was so cute!!
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Post by Winged Outlaw » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:25 pm

This story has been pretty good so far, and as such Uncanny is probably gonna be the only Core X-Book I won't drop. My only problem here is that the Fury is basically Marvel's equivalent of DC's Doomsday. This thing killed every single super-powered being in its original reality, and posed such a threat that a higher power (I'm not familiar enough with Captain Britain continuity to say who) destroyed the Fury's original reality in an attempt to contain it. And it still lived, to go on to plague Captain Britain many more times, each battle being fought with heavy casualties.

In other words... Cannonball, Rachel, and Bishop should all be long dead by now. But I guess I can overlook it seeing as how they're main characters and all. Just doesn't make sense that a relatively small team of mutants could succeed where a whole reality failed.

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Post by Northstars Love » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:41 pm

Originally posted by Winged Outlaw

In other words... Cannonball, Rachel, and Bishop should all be long dead by now. But I guess I can overlook it seeing as how they're main characters and all. Just doesn't make sense that a relatively small team of mutants could succeed where a whole reality failed.

If Fury killed all our merry mutants there would be no X-Men left. That would kill the whole X franchise right then and there wouldn't it? :P

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Post by Diablo » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:09 pm

Yeah, I agree, Northstar, we don't want our favourite X-Men dead !
But still, in the end, I guess the Fury won't look as impressive as he did during his first appearence.
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Post by Winged Outlaw » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:20 pm

Originally posted by **Northstars Love**
Originally posted by Winged Outlaw

In other words... Cannonball, Rachel, and Bishop should all be long dead by now. But I guess I can overlook it seeing as how they're main characters and all. Just doesn't make sense that a relatively small team of mutants could succeed where a whole reality failed.

If Fury killed all our merry mutants there would be no X-Men left. That would kill the whole X franchise right then and there wouldn't it? :P
I know :p I'm just saying... the fury's kinda like putting the X-Men up against a psycho Superman or something... its not terribly realistic. A different villain probably would have been better, unless Claremont is about to delve into some kind of yet-to-be-seen plot involving the REAL Captain Britain. As it stands, it seems he just sorta picked the Fury at random... kinda mean to do to your beloved characters :LOL

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Post by Maelstrom » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:51 pm

Personally, I'm enjoying all the "callbacks" that they're doing. First the image inducer and the dinner date from 101, and now, with Wolverine's little stund, we have a humorous herald to #98 (I think, or maybe it was #97?) And they're not just tossed out there without rhyme or reason: they do make sense in the story.

Clairmont has a lot of talent... but, I must agree, his "puts [x] to shame" seems to be his uber-favorite microwriting piece. It'd be nice if he'd be more conscious of it....

And the Xmen have a long legacy of going up against powerful, kick-ass monsters that they don't have a *chance* of defeating. Do you honestly think anyone had a chance against Dark Phoenix? The second guardian of the M'Kren Crystal? Nimrod? And there's a bunch more that I can't think of right now. It gives the writer a chance to show off the effect of teamwork against an uber-powerful thing no one can take down alone: brain against brawn.
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Post by BAMFCentral » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:39 pm

Originally posted by The Drastic Spastic
It actually pissed me off when Kurt said [spoiler]"the Sage I remember worked for the Hellfire Club." You... you don't remember her!! She was NEVER FRICKING THERE. I hate the character (Sage) even more now because she's just one big stupid retcon.[/spoiler] I mean, I knew that before, but pointing it out with lines like that just makes it worse.
Using spoiler tag, though everyone probably has already read the issue by now... [spoiler]
Haven't found an issue yet were Sage and Kurt meet and talk. But they have been present in the same room together while she was working for the Hellfire club *cough* spying for chuck *cough*.

Sage I believe made her debut back in the 80's, around the same time as Rachel Summers. I will have to look up the issue were the two meet up... Marvel reprinted the issue in Essential X-Men VOl 5
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Post by SmoothBamf » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:35 pm

I hate sage aswell but I really enjoyed all of nightcrawlers dialog during that sean your talking about

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Post by Northstars Love » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:21 pm

Originally posted by Maelstrom
Personally, I'm enjoying all the "callbacks" that they're doing. First the image inducer and the dinner date from 101, and now, with Wolverine's little stund, we have a humorous herald to #98 (I think, or maybe it was #97?) And they're not just tossed out there without rhyme or reason: they do make sense in the story.

I felt the same way Amy. I was getting the feeling it was very reminiscent of issue #98 all over again. Wolverine tearing part a long dress so the ladies can have move freedon of movement. lol Issue 100-101 seeing Rachel flying through the air in flames and crashing into the water.(Phoneix's return?)

I don't mind a few "call-backs" as you say Amy but I still would like to see some original writing and not always use past ideas, change them somewhat, just to get a story across. Don't get me wrong I love Claremont but I don't want the past to be used to drive the story. We "oldies" :P heh...understand these callbacks because we read them when. But others do not. I dunno. I just feel once it's used don't use it again.

Of course that can be said of almost anything! :)

And the Xmen have a long legacy of going up against powerful, kick-ass monsters that they don't have a *chance* of defeating. Do you honestly think anyone had a chance against Dark Phoenix? The second guardian of the M'Kren Crystal? Nimrod? And there's a bunch more that I can't think of right now. It gives the writer a chance to show off the effect of teamwork against an uber-powerful thing no one can take down alone: brain against brawn.

Dark Phoenix was defeated only because she willed it. Jean herself knew the potential she had to destroy the universe. She consumed a whole star that killed millions of people. She couldn't be controlled. No one could defeat her by themselves or as a team.. It was her good side that eventually defeated the evil side. She knew what had to be done so she took control of the situation and killed herself.

Of course now we know this wasn't really her but an exact copy provided by ala the Phoenix Force.

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Post by Bamf Bunny » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:27 pm

I just read the original Captain Britain stories with the Fury for the first time yesterday, and, Alan Davis or no Alan Davis, I think he's a poor choice of villain for the X-Men. The whole point of the character is that he kills superheroes. It's his purpose in existence, and in the CB stories he's an unimaginably powerful, implacable enemy who tears through Superman-like beings as though they're tissue paper.

What's the point of using the Fury if he's not going to kill? What's the point of using the Fury if instead of simple, straightforward attacks, he's taking time out from killing to hack Sage's glasses? It's like buying a ticket to a boxing match only to see the champion trying out a little thumb wrestling before he gets started.
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Post by Diablo » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:29 pm

Being one of the few villains that Alan Moore has created for Marvel, I had also hoped the Fury would have done more damage !
So it's GREAT to see this villain again, after decades of limboes, but yeah, it's a shame that it doesn't have any impact.
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Post by SheCat » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:44 pm

I wasn't very impressed by the issue. Maybe it's because I despise Storm and don't care about Wolvie, but nothing in it excited me. The Nightcrawler scene with the guns was cute, but the dialogue seemed bland and dry. And, as Winged Outlaw has pointed out, the Fury kills things, it doesn't just fry their shades. To me, it seems like the Fury was just a random villain Claremont chose. :\ So far, Claremont hasn't held my interest.

By the way, is this in the same timeline as Adjectiveless? Because Rems and Rogue are in China, not the gym...
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Post by Winged Outlaw » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:14 pm

Originally posted by SheCat
I wasn't very impressed by the issue. Maybe it's because I despise Storm and don't care about Wolvie, but nothing in it excited me. The Nightcrawler scene with the guns was cute, but the dialogue seemed bland and dry. And, as Winged Outlaw has pointed out, the Fury kills things, it doesn't just fry their shades. To me, it seems like the Fury was just a random villain Claremont chose. : So far, Claremont hasn't held my interest.

By the way, is this in the same timeline as Adjectiveless? Because Rems and Rogue are in China, not the gym...
To be fair... so is Wolverine :p I'd say that its a safe bet that these two books aren't exactly on the same timeline.

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Post by CurlyyHairGirl » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:39 pm

Originally posted by Maelstrom
Personally, I'm enjoying all the "callbacks" that they're doing. First the image inducer and the dinner date from 101, and now, with Wolverine's little stund, we have a humorous herald to #98 (I think, or maybe it was #97?) And they're not just tossed out there without rhyme or reason: they do make sense in the story.
I see what you mean. I looked back at the early issues and just started to laugh...but, as others have said, the "callbacks" make the story less original. It's great that they remind us of the earlier issues, don't get me wrong, but they don't need to place reminders in every new issue that comes out
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