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Post by HoodedMan » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:31 pm

Originally posted by NachtcGleiskette
*Nacht steps in to remind that there really isn't much canon heterosexuality because we're in the Ultimate universe, not the 616...

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Post by chicory » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:42 am

I'd also like to see a bi or a gay Nightcrawler - and it's true, they haven't defined him either way.
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Post by Blue_Demon94 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:33 pm

I thought they already kind of dealt with her powers.. I mean, she did waste the whole Hellfire Club, didn't she?! And she's used the powers since then right?! But I guess this arc will just go into either her powers going out of control, or her mastering them :phoenix
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Post by Diablo » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:21 am

Originally posted by chicory
I'd also like to see a bi or a gay Nightcrawler - and it's true, they haven't defined him either way.
Aw, come on ! The guy falls in love with every woman he meets ! Jean, Storm, Dazzler,...
I understand the interest of characters being different in the Ultimate universe, but this transformation would be just wrong. Part of Nightcrawler's interest is his ladies's man side.
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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:05 am

Originally posted by Diablo
Originally posted by chicory
I'd also like to see a bi or a gay Nightcrawler - and it's true, they haven't defined him either way.
Aw, come on ! The guy falls in love with every woman he meets ! Jean, Storm, Dazzler,...
I understand the interest of characters being different in the Ultimate universe, but this transformation would be just wrong. Part of Nightcrawler's interest is his ladies's man side.
He can still be a romantic devil if he's gay. Just a little twist on it.

I'd rather have him straight, but I wouldn't fuss if they made him gay or bi.
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Post by Blue_Demon94 » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:25 pm

It would be interesting if him and Blink met in Ultimate.. though I think she may have been killed on Mojo's show:doh!:bamf
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Post by Confizzle » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:13 pm

Yeah Blink is dead much like the 616 version, dead before we got to see her....

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:53 pm

Only in a universe where no one dies could the death of an uninteresting, barely-developed character cause so much angst. Let it go! Christ!
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Post by Confizzle » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:05 pm

Wait...are ya talking about Ultimate or 616?

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Post by Blue_Demon94 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:56 pm

I think they should have at least developed her character or introduced her before she was killed off.. but actually, they never technically killed her, but it was implied.. anyway, I think the deaths of major characters in Ultimate are much more meaningful, because Ultimate doesn't seem likely to revive characters through stupid resurrection means, so it's likely that both Beast and Gambit will be dead for sure:(
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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:02 pm

Originally posted by confusedelf
Wait...are ya talking about Ultimate or 616?
616.

I didn't know they killed her off right away in Ultimate, but it's a good joke.
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Post by Blue_Demon94 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:33 pm

Was she ever a part of 616? I didn't know that..:shifty
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Post by Confizzle » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:12 am

She was part of the Phalanex(sp) Covenent arc she sacrificed herself to kill Harvest or whatever his name was.... died about an issue or two after she was introduced...one of the few...the proud....the ones that actually stay dead.... now including: Blink, Thunderbird, Cypher, Pyro, Mastermind, and others....

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:09 pm

Isn't the original Blink back from the dead and floating around the multiverse in Exiles?
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Post by Confizzle » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:09 am

wait by orginal you mean 616? the AoA one is with the Exiles....

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:28 am

I assumed the 616 and AoA were the same one... which doesn't make much sense.

Wasn't the AoA one the original? It doesn't really matter... she was the most boring of all the Exiles (except for maybe her boyfriend) and it just seems weird that people would mourn her death even before she'd been "developed".
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Post by Confizzle » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:59 am

Phalanex Convent(or however the hell you spell it) was in '94 whereas the AoA timelines began in '95, they probably made AoA Blink an important character to ease the 616's passing :P

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:34 am

Originally posted by confusedelf
Phalanex Convent(or however the hell you spell it) was in '94 whereas the AoA timelines began in '95, they probably made AoA Blink an important character to ease the 616's passing :P
If that was the reasoning, why'd they kill her at the end and not bring her back until 2002? (2001?)

I only like Blink as the jokey character that dies all the time. I don't like to actually see her doing stuff. That's just me, though.
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Post by NachtcGleiskette » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:28 am

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Post by Blue_Demon94 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:24 am

Did it already come out?? I've read every summary from uncannyxmen.net and I haven't read this one yet.. I still have no idea who that mutant is, but his powers remind me of that kid Wolverine had to kill a while back
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Post by Nandireya » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:58 am

Originally posted by NachtcGleiskette
Umm, what? Was they're thing in common that they'd barely even be in the issue and absolutely nothing would be resolved? Was that it?
The only thing I can put it down to is that they both had a crush on someone who didn't give a damn about them...

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:07 am

[quote]Originally posted by NachtcGleiskette
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Post by Confizzle » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:02 am

It's always been hinted that Colossus has the hots for Wolvy. Ultimate X-Men #68=major disappointment

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Post by The Drastic Spastic » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:59 am

I came to the end and it was like, is that it? Twelve pages on [spoiler]The Phoenix, and one panel of Jean and Scott (:(!) the rest of that page on Rogue and Bobby cleaning up after sex[/spoiler], which was cool and all, I like those parts, but not exactly what I was hoping for. Why couldn't he use the remaining 11 pages to do something interesting instead of using them to introduce Ultimate(ly boring) [spoiler]Prometheus[/spoiler]? I didn't like him before, and so far, not impressed. He killed his parents. *yawn* Whatever. Waste of space. When's Dazzler going to wake up and start tormenting Kurt? How does Piotr's date with Northstar go? Does Kurt get over his gay cootie freak-out? When are Charles and Lilandra going to do it? When is Kitty going to bugger off to Ultimate Spider-Man for good so she quits wasting valuable panels being annoying for no reason aside from she has to be in the book? These are the questions that need answering.
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Post by Confizzle » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:20 pm

Ya know the Bobby/Rogue romance confuses the hell out of me.... I mean we have Bobby hanging out with Rogue and dating her before the "Cry Wolf" arc then when Rogue left with Gambit Bobby moved on to Kitty, till Kitty found out that he still likes Rogue and ditched him for Spiderman, and now Rogue is back, and getting it on with Bobby only a little while after Gambit died. In other words it's very confusing and seems forced.

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