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Postby neling4 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:32 pm

Here it is! Finally, some more info on this:

http://www.marvel.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 7edd7953c4
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Postby love_of_bob » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:48 pm

My fear with this is what he says about Kurt being "quite close to divine" and taking everything so well because of his faith. It sounds like he's reached complete inner peace and once a character has done that, his arc is basically over. There's no point in putting him through trials when you know they're not ever going to affect him deeply. And it would probably be even harder to relate to him because of it. As a result, he's more likely than ever to remain a background element.
There HAS to be a happy medium between "brooding" and "always zen".

I also loathe that priest disguise. LOATHE! :yuck

But maybe I should actually read the story first? :\
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Postby Saint Kurt » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:05 pm

Here's a Q&A about the short stories with some preview artwork:

http://www.marvel.com/news/-1.2971

I really like that very high contrast black and white style that the Nightcrawler art is in, but I'll wait to see it colored before making a final judgement. I think my favorite is the page of Anole taking a really action packed cell phone call though.

As for the story, I'm going to wander out on a limb and say that it seems that too many writers jump on Nightcrawler's religious values as the only thing that drives him. It makes me think the writers aren't very religious themselves because people who are really religious and live balanced lives don't think and talk about God all day long. (Though this may be different for superheroes - having never been one, I don't know.)

Or, perhaps what they're saying is that Nightcrawler isn't balanced?

I haven't read it yet either, I'm just going off of the writer's comments. If he gets it right though, it will be awesome because the idea of:
Looking for god in places that god doesn't necessarily lend him/her/itself to being found.

is core to having a mature faith. It would be cool see Nightcrawler finally "grow up" and keep his faith crises internal at last.

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Postby fourpawsonthefloor » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:34 pm

I'm not unhappy about the subject matter, though I don't want to see it flogged to death, I agree. I mean, the overly pious have never held a lot of attraction for me. Being secure and happy in your faith, while still remaining open minded and constantly seeking wisdom does.

I can't say the art blew my socks off. I found it very blockish. Then again, as SK said, it depends on how its coloured. And everyone likes different styles.

All this means, is I'm gonna have to tell my guys at the comic store to pull more for me. LOL ><

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Postby love_of_bob » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:09 pm

It was just confirmed that there will be no Nightcrawler in Astonishing.:(
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Postby neling4 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:44 pm

Originally posted by love_of_bob
It was just confirmed that there will be no Nightcrawler in Astonishing.:(


I don't understand, then why did Bianchi design new spandex for him?

I see I am a "Bilge Rat". I need to get busy and post 47 more times so I can be a "Shoulder Parrot". Somehow, that just sounds more attractive.
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Postby love_of_bob » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:55 pm

Originally posted by neling4
Originally posted by love_of_bob
It was just confirmed that there will be no Nightcrawler in Astonishing.:(


I don't understand, then why did Bianchi design new spandex for him?

I see I am a "Bilge Rat". I need to get busy and post 47 more times so I can be a "Shoulder Parrot". Somehow, that just sounds more attractive.


He designed new costumes for all the main X-men. He did one for Colossus, too.
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Postby neling4 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:29 pm

*Heavy sigh...* :(
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Postby Bamfing_Bob » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:47 pm

Finally he shows up in comics again...
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Postby love_of_bob » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:07 am

The preview pages can be found colored and lettered here.
Looks like there was more to this than met the eye: the chef appears to be none other than Scalphunter.
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Postby love_of_bob » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:09 am

This story was fa-bu-lous, although a lot of people have reacted to one thing in particular. Guess which one?

Someone scanned it and put it up here.

[Edited on 18/4/08 by love_of_bob]
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Postby neling4 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:18 pm

Thanks for the link love_of_bob!

I think the reason Kurt changed his mind had something to do with the cross Scalphunter was wearing.
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Postby AliceInTheWonderland » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:35 pm

Reading the story I was somewhat disappointed.
Most people seem to like it though.
The whole priest/being overly religiuos thing always annoyed me. I miss old school nightcrawler :
And I'm only really into the character since a few months ago. But that's the version I fell in love with. I don't even like superhero comics I just like NC

The story came off to me as something that tried to be deep and meaningful but really wasn't. Found it kinda boting too.

But thanks for the link!

Looks like NC won't appear in any x-book :bawl
Does anyone have information?
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Postby neling4 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:51 pm

He's in Uncanny at the moment Alice. I posted links to previews of #497 on this board if you would like to check them out.
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Postby love_of_bob » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:01 pm

Originally posted by neling4
Thanks for the link love_of_bob!

I think the reason Kurt changed his mind had something to do with the cross Scalphunter was wearing.


Actually, Scalphunter only wore that in the end, remember? A sign that he changed the direction of his life. Personally, I think it seems more likely that Kurt was just messing with him, but we'll see.
What I liked most about the story was that it showed just how devious Kurt can be, his natural aptitude for acting and how good he is at reading and understanding people. You can totally tell he's Mystique's son here, and I mean that in the best of ways. The priest/Scalphunter segment was hilarious:
"No hablo Ingles."
"Of course not."

Originally posted by AliceInTheWonderland
Looks like NC won't appear in any x-book :bawl
Does anyone have information?


Kurt is currently appearing in Uncanny and will continue to do so, from what I've heard. He will also appear in the FCBD (Free Comic Book Day) issue that's due out soon, starring Pixie. Then he will get some focus in the upcoming Secret Invasion: Xmen tie-in that comes out in August, written by Mike Carey.
So there will be plenty of Kurt coming up.
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Postby Angelique » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:28 pm

The only thing that annoyed me was Nighty addressing Scalphunter with the formal "usted" instead of the much more commonly used and more appropriate "tu."

Exclusive uses of formal "you" words signals to me the use of a translation engine. What? Marvel couldn't ask a real Spanish speaker for a translation? New York doesn't have enough of them?
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Postby Confizzle » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:42 am

Wait wouldn't usted be the better choice considering tu is more of a familiar way, it'd be more considerate for Kurt to use the formal, since he's not really all that familar with Scalphunter.

And if they ran it through a translator, oh well, it was one line not the Iliad.
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Postby Angelique » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:05 am

I only see usted or the abbreviation "Ud" used on signs. When speaking directly with someone these days, tu is used, even for God.
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Postby AliceInTheWonderland » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:00 pm

Originally posted by love_of_bob

So there will be plenty of Kurt coming up.


Thank God!

I didn't know if he would appear in any of those new x-titlesand if there would be anything after the current Uncanny story.
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Postby B A M F ! » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:44 pm

Originally posted by love_of_bob

What I liked most about the story was that it showed just how devious Kurt can be, his natural aptitude for acting and how good he is at reading and understanding people. You can totally tell he's Mystique's son here, and I mean that in the best of ways.





Well said and agree completely!




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Postby Slarti » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:49 pm

Okay... now I have to read it. I even have the issue on my table, I just haven't done more than thumb through it.

But the real reason I posted? OMG!!!! BAMFIE!!!!

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Postby Slarti » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:08 pm

Hee! I'm good!! I'm still here, clearly. :coy There are a few of the old gang left, but we've got a whole new gang too! You SO need to come in chat and say hello sometime!!!
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That sounds like a kick-arse plan Slarti ol' pal...Danke for the invite!!!
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