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Postby Kurts Hurt77 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:23 am

I mean Im german such as kurt,my birth parents also gave me up such as kurt's,& I have been judged alot religiously. I guess thats why Im an NC fan is because I can really relate to him(but no,Im not blue with 3 fingers & the ability to teleport).Can you guys relate to any of NC's predicaments?

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Postby Elfdame » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:07 pm

Yeah, I was born with a visible deformity and had a LOT of people tell me I was weird.

Of course, the fact that I *am* weird might have s/t to do with that ...

And please, don't hurt other people by calling them stupid, etc. No matter how other people have rejected you, it's best to try not to be rude and reject other people. Fight whatever you perceive as hard to understand behavior with kindness when possible.

Also, even though your birth parents gave you up, obviously someone raised you, so that's a positive, not a negative. {looking on the sunny side of life}
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Postby Elwing » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:11 pm

I think everybody here understands the sense of alienation that comes with this character. This is why he appeals so much-in this world, everybody is a stranger in a one way or another. For me, I suffer from a mental disorder (major depression) and I know all about being the odd one out.

As for Steyn, please be careful. I don't think he has anything against you, and you two had better work something out before this gets out of hand...It would be a pity if the admins had to take measures against you, because we really need and welcome new blood around here, and it would be a shame if you got banned because of a misunderstanding with somebody who is a real cool guy.
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Postby Kurts Hurt77 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:03 pm

elfdame I never called anyone stupid
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Postby Slarti » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:16 pm

You know, she's being nice to you. I think we've all tried to be quite nice, though we do have rules, just like anyplace else in this world, and we ask our members follow them.

The number one rule is respect for each other, which does not include posting that you don't want somebody's "stupid replies" in your thread.
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Postby Ult_Sm86 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:39 pm

I had four open heart surgeries so though there may be no visual deformities with my physical self, I'm slower than a lot of people, tire quicker, I get blue in the lips, ears, purple in the cheeks, and i'm all kinds of screwed up when it comes to alcohol and caffeine. I got a lot of low blow comments back in grade school like "oh Ty, why you so upset i cut you man? Don't have a heart attack!"

I mean.... that stuff is just uncalled for. Being mean to someone, with ZERO justification, especially something like treating someone badly, is just unfair.

That said, I think Kurt, the character, has a very good sense of justice, tolerance, patience, and best of all, humor. He takes everything said to him quite well and is a very forgiving soul. I think it would take a lot to genuinely upset him. He'll feel bad that you're making fun of him, but I doubt he'll run to corners and cry like Jubilee might. :LMAO
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Postby Bamfing_Bob » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:55 pm

I, like most of you, am misunderstood. lol. I am both religious and crazy, so, mine and Kurt's personality are similar. I was miserable in Elementry and Junior High cuz I was an awkward fat kid. I struggled w/ alot of mental anxieties, but now I'm well adjusted.
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Postby Kurts Hurt77 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:10 am

Originally posted by Slarti
You know, she's being nice to you. I think we've all tried to be quite nice, though we do have rules, just like anyplace else in this world, and we ask our members follow them.

The number one rule is respect for each other, which does not include posting that you don't want somebody's "stupid replies" in your thread.


say is there anyway I can block certant users from replying to my post?like a user mute or something?
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Postby Saint Kurt » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:58 am

Originally posted by Kurts Hurt77
say is there anyway I can block certant users from replying to my post?like a user mute or something?


Yes. And it is very effective.

It is called "a permanent user ban" - effective immediately. I think that should solve your problem with this board in a very thorough and complete way. You won't be able to read what we write and we won't have to put up with your rudeness to our moderators.

We've been more than patient and it would appear that this is the perfect solution for everyone involved.


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Postby Angelique » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:49 am

Sure. Just give him an image inducer and pretend he's however you might define normal.

Here's the thing. Almost every time Nightcrawler is wronged or witnesses evil, he addresses the matter as appropriately as possible. Even when he's punching a baddie's lights out, he's polite and often funny. I could only hope to be as decent a person when I find someone merely annoying. Shunning someone for no apparent reason or just for being annoying is not, I think, what Nightcrawler would do.

Now onto the real topic. I am half German. I love fencing, Star Wars, and old adventure movies. I have a strange idea of what constitutes "light reading." I am a bit of a romantic at heart. I am also a devout Catholic and have difficulty just walking by when something bad's happening to someone else.

Try as I might, I have difficulty fitting in with "normal" people, so I gave up trying a long time ago. Also, while I don't have any visible deformities (it took X-rays to discover the extra bones in my feet), I was the scrawny kid with braces, severe acne, and a speech impediment. Nobody called me a demon, but I have spent a lot of my life being misjudged. For example, I had a teacher try to force me into special ed for "behavioral problems" as a kid and classmates simply regarded me as stupid when, as it turned out, my difficulty understanding or even acknowledging when I was spoken to was because I was losing my hearing. I've had the odd experience of living on the fringe, being neither a solid member of the Deaf community nor the hearing population.

I was addressing 77's final post, by the way. I agree. A ban is more effective than my suggestion would have been any day.

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Postby Elfdame » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:02 pm

OT: hard of hearing vs. Deaf
Yeah, I remember a lot of folks who had some pretty severe hearing loss but were not "Deaf" as defined by Deaf community. Neither fish nor fowl. Missed a lot in hearing world, but shunted to fringes of Deaf world.

And I think yeah most people admire a real person (and therefore those types symbolized by a Nightcrawler or a Spider-man) who keeps his cool while being treated unfairly. Then hauls off and punches the baddie. Heh heh. Like that movie "My Bodyguard" from early 80's. I kinda felt bad in the end how the big guy resolved the situation, but loved the little guy for his resourcefulness.

Again, sorry to have hijacked yet another thread. I need to watch my step better in future. Or start new threads...
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Postby HoodedMan » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:40 pm

And now, in the spirit of transparency, since Kurts Hurt77 registered a new username to evade the forum ban, he has been sitebanned.

(For the sake of clarification, a forum ban restricts a member from posting or sending U2Us. A siteban prevents anyone from that Internet address from using the site in any way, including viewing the forums, gallery, etc.)

I'm proud of Nightscrawler's members for putting up with this member so long.

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Postby Saint Kurt » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:28 am

And the forum staff!

Because I don't know about you guys, but I really hated having to add "read Kurts Hurt77's flame posts" to my list of 5 or 6 things I do each night (after working a 10 - 12 hour day) that includes preparing case reports, reading journal articles, and reviewing tomorrow's patient load.

I'm sure everyone else had something better to do as well.

(I did consider the siteban option but I felt like ... it might have been a little TOO harsh for a first step. Plus, I've never done it before. I kind of saw it coming though so - THANKS HOODEDMAN!)

I've got some journal articles and stuff to read now.

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Postby Elfdame » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:44 pm

So, compared to a bear's anus ...

naw, I'm not going there.
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Postby neling4 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:01 pm

Are we still discussing Kurt's Hurt and how we relate?

I guess I am clueless. I didn't even notice this fellow.

On the subject of relating, yes, I relate to Kurt. Like Angelique, I am part German: 1/4. My grandfather was full-blood German. That was the first reason I latched onto Kurt. I related to his heritage. Also, I related to his problem with acceptance. I was badly bullied in grade school, both by my fellow students and by the teachers! I tended to hang out with the black students and the, what some people called back then: "poor white trash". We were all being ostracized together. I don't think it even occurred to me then, but maybe I was ostracized because I was myself of mixed blood. My grandma was Native. At the time, I just thought they didn't like me because...well...actually, I had no idea. At some point, I just decided to hell with them, I won't let them keep me down, and I didn't! I graduated one of the top students in my class (#27 in a class of over 200!) and went on to college, made the Dean's list, met Mr. neling4, got married, had two kids and am extremely happy. Anyway, that's why I relate to Kurt. I suffered, and I overcame!

To top it all, I did something last Saturday that I have wanted to do for years: I danced in a powwow to honor my Native heritage! I have pictures if anyone wants to see.:bamf :)

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Postby fourpawsonthefloor » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:46 pm

I think that's cool nelling! You should post a couple of those piccies!

I was a geek in school, therefore I got picked on. I'm still a geek now...but I'd kick anyone who tried to pull that crap now, so we're all good. :)

My kids are biracial though - and so far they aren't having a problem with that. Hopefully they never do, but I doubt it in this world. All I can hope is that those people aren't in a power position over them ever.
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Postby neling4 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm

Thanks fourpawsonthefloor!

Here ya go! I'm the one in red:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o263 ... CT1071.jpg

This one's my favorite:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o263 ... 1085-1.jpg



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Postby Elfdame » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:11 pm

Cool photo, neling! I am so sick of being around all you good-looking people.

But I'll try to be tolerant about it. *smirk*

My grandkids are biracial: two are Latina-American and two are Black/White. I love 'em all, of course, even though they're only mine by marriage. Three of 'em are pale white with blonde hair and blue eyes, and although that is normally my least preference for looks, I think they are gorgeous and talented and ... you get the drift.

I think the one with cerebral palsy will have a helluva harder time than the ones who are only Black/White. For one thing, she can't sit up, eat food, or talk. (That's three things, oops.) But she is intelligent and knows what's going on. So she'll feel the hurt the most, I think.

The fun thing about the character of Nightcrawler is that he has these tremendous abilities -- but they are often overlooked or looked at askance because of his physical differences. Most people feel what I think of as the "Beauty and the Beast Syndrome" -- they sense their own worth, but don't think others can see it.

It's been interesting to see how everyone relates his/her struggles to The Fuzzy Dude.
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Postby neling4 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:19 pm

Thanks for the compliment Elfdame!

My great nephew and niece are tri-racial: White, black and a little bit Native. It's the wave of the future.
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Postby Angelique » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:43 pm

Rather like some little cousins of mine- Black, white, and Latino, and all cute! Yet even in a large city, I've noticed some people stare when we're on family outings. It may, however, be because we talk loudly and laugh a lot, as well as because we're a rather colorful bunch.
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Postby The Drastic Spastic » Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:43 am

Like everyone else I'm really into my German heritage. I never see people that "look like me" but my ex is in Germany now and he says there are a lot of women who look like me... he said several times that it's really weird. Awesome. It's like I'm mind-fucking him without having to actually do anything.

Aside from that, I just like freaks. Not ugly ones though! Only the pretty ones. :whistle
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Postby Kriecher_Geliebter » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:41 am

i do relate to nightcrawler more then any other character.
im not german, or blue, but i have have been outcasted most of my life and all ym school years, even from other 'loners'. i have always been treated as 'special' by others, even adults because of a mental 'problem' which means i cant focus on any task really well, and loads of immune system problems and illness's all my life.my mother gave me up when i was only a few weeks old, and i could still see her, but she has 5 other kids she never gave up which is :yell, so i dont. and i never knew my father. ts only now that even other 'outcasts' are friendly to me.


sorry for the big post but kurt to me is a marvel (ugh bad pun). when i first learnt about him from my dad i was so happy. being a lonely child, i could tell my kurt poster my problems from school and felt as if that picture understood. i started buying old comics and could live my little fantasy of heros. i never had gotten into other stuff before but kurt was so like me i could really relate. i still do :)

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Postby Elfdame » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:16 am

Welcome to a bunch of other loners and outcasts -- well, I can't speak for all of them, but some of us anyway! Look around and let us know what other things you like about Kurt.

And whether you think he should carry a sword or not ...
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Postby Kastor » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:04 pm

I think anyone can relate to Kurt in some way.
Who hasn't felt alienated?

As for me, I've never really been made fun of or anything, as far as I remember. But when I have been, it stuck with me for a long time. That's probably why my self-esteem sucks.
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Postby Elfdame » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:15 pm

A lot of people assume an aloof person is a snob, when in actuality the person is often shy. Good point about everyone facing alienation in some way.
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