Nightscrawlers

neling4 wrote:There is also the fact that being half demon makes him no longer half German, which makes those of us with German ancestry at a loss for someone with whom to identify. I refuse to identify with the Red Skull or Fenris, and I cannot identify with a demon. I do not have demons in my family tree, no matter what my mother-in-law says.

How many Australians do you see in comics, hmmm? The only ones I can think of...and that's very, very, VERY few...are bad guys! Or in that gawd-awful X-book that I never read...

You think that's bad? They had an awsome south african mutant on the x-team who had so far one of theweirdest mutations, and they killed him off completely. Wouldn't mind having him JEEEEEAN!ed and up and running again.

I have German ancestry but I'm also Canadian so I have WOLVERINE to identify with. Kick ass!

Gateway is an aborigine and a mutant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_(comics)

Lifeguard (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lifeguard) and Slipstream (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Davis_Came ... rth-616%29)are both Australian. And if you're saying that xtreme x-men sucked, well i quite enjoyed it until Larroca left and Claremont tried to expand on his God Loves, Man Kills with a sequel.

Steyn, are you talking about Maggott. He was pretty interesting, and the version drawn by Joe Mad. was pretty cool.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Maggott_%2 ... rth-616%29

Hey Drastic, I recognize that scene in your avvy from TAS. I wonder why Wolverine wasn't that upset about leaving Pixie behind!

That being said, I feel like adding my own dialogue to that: "The Elf ain't a demon, bub!"

Baron Zemo wears a bag on his head.

I just can't identify with that.

neling4 wrote: Now I have nothing.

Don't give up, Neling. Kurt's not a demon. He's a German mutant who's being horribly used and discriminated by the very people who pretend to understand and support mutants. We'll fix this somehow.

neling4 wrote:Baron Zemo wears a bag on his head.

I just can't identify with that.

And Wolverine wears a Nighty on his head. At least in the current spiffy avatar.

Jeremus wrote:

neling4 wrote: Now I have nothing.

Don't give up, Neling. Kurt's not a demon. He's a German mutant who's being horribly used and discriminated by the very people who pretend to understand and support mutants. We'll fix this somehow.

Thank you, Jeremus.

I intend to compose a rude post for My Cup O Joe. This seems to be the only way to get access to Joe Q.:

http://www.marvel.com/comics/cup_o_joe

Follow me into battle, Jeremus.

Elfdame wrote:

neling4 wrote:Baron Zemo wears a bag on his head.

I just can't identify with that.

And Wolverine wears a Nighty on his head. At least in the current spiffy avatar.

I thought only I said "spiffy".

Hey, I'm basically at that half-century mark myself, lady. And "spiffy" is too good a word to relegate to the past.

Sic Joe, girlfriend, sic 'im good!

Zemo is actually pretty cool nowadays, quite badass. And only few men can pull wearing a pink mask and still get the chicks.

...Though I DO admit that at some point in the past he was married to a woman that pretended to be his reincarnated father...

Also, neling, please don't start harassing the Editor in Chief of Marvel about something that must (at least to him) appear as a minor obstruction in the way of the next big event. at best he'll ignore you, at worst he'll do stuff you don't like on purpose

[Edited on 27/3/09 by Freak]

But if we remain quiet, he'll have our silence as an excuse to pretend we like what he's doing to Nightcrawler.

I will not harass, but I will be firm and persistent.

Entropy wrote:Gateway is an aborigine and a mutant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_(comics)

Lifeguard (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lifeguard) and Slipstream (http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Davis_Came ... rth-616%29)are both Australian. And if you're saying that xtreme x-men sucked, well i quite enjoyed it until Larroca left and Claremont tried to expand on his God Loves, Man Kills with a sequel.

I keep forgetting Gateway...maybe because he was pretty much a very put-upon Macguffin...more a mode of transport than a character...poor guy...

Yeah...X-Treme X-Men was the book I never read...so I know diddly squat about those two...and the few issues I DID read...well...weren't very good...

The only other Aussie mutant I can think of is Pyro...and he's dead too...at least he was the last time I looked...

Hey....is there a spoiler for X-infernus #4 anywhere? I'd like to get a word for word on that page where Kurt said he's the son of a demon.

Jeremus wrote:Hey....is there a spoiler for X-infernus #4 anywhere? I'd like to get a word for word on that page where Kurt said he's the son of a demon.

Here it is:

Illyana: "I am a soulless beast. A monster. And after all of this, my soul is further than ever."

Kurt: "Oh, Illyana...I've been called a monster. Ive been hunted. Hell, I'm the son of a demon. Does this mean that I have no soul?"

Freak wrote:
Also, neling, please don't start harassing the Editor in Chief of Marvel about something that must (at least to him) appear as a minor obstruction in the way of the next big event. at best he'll ignore you, at worst he'll do stuff you don't like on purpose

We will not harass him. We will be very civilized. We don't wish Marvel any harm.
But you're very right.....he could ignore us (which is more probable) or he could get mad and take it out on us and Nightcrawler. Neither of those things would be our fault, however. He's the one in "power". Whatever he chooses to do will be on him. But I cannot stand by and allow him to do to Nightcrawler what I think is wrong and not say anything. Angelique is right in that he might use our silence to justify whatever he chooses to do. So if it's our silence he uses or our protests he uses to justify changing Nightcrawler into some kind of demon.....I'd rather it be with our protests ringing in his ears.

"Soon we must choose between what is right and what is easy."

The Force is with us.....join us Freak:D
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Thanks, Neling for the info!:)

Zemo wears a fur muff and is that a car part on his head?

You are welcome, Jeremus!

I'm actually okay with him being a half-demon if that means he gets more interesting stories in the future. He could be the magic link of the X-Men like he used to be in his own ongoing...And score some demon chicks. *cough*

Maybe the arc-that-must-not-be-named left such a bad taste in Kurt's mouth that he considers the-mutant-who-must-not-be-named a demon even though he's not...?

The who of the what now?

Freak wrote:I'm actually okay with him being a half-demon if that means he gets more interesting stories in the future. He could be the magic link of the X-Men like he used to be in his own ongoing...And score some demon chicks. *cough*

Yes! More interesting MORE INTERESTING.

*writes Joe Q to demand he make things more interesting according to my own personal tastes* That'll show him.

neling4 wrote: Here it is:

Illyana: "I am a soulless beast. A monster. And after all of this, my soul is further than ever."

Kurt: "Oh, Illyana...I've been called a monster. Ive been hunted. Hell, I'm the son of a demon. Does this mean that I have no soul?"

And then he says "I don't know for sure." Nice!

Anyone else want to provide the rest? hehe

Here is the rest of it:

Kurt: "I don't know for sure. It isn't something I can touch, something I can control. All I can control is what I do. I make the choices I think are right and that is all I can do. I decided that I have a soul."

Jeremus, we need an acronym.

I just read the entire series today and...wow. I loved Kurt's quotes at the end (and laughed when Pixie flew away ).

Oh, and Spastic, your ava made me burst out laughing. XD

[Edited on 29/3/09 by Vaiyala]

Nandireya wrote:Maybe the arc-that-must-not-be-named left such a bad taste in Kurt's mouth that he considers the-mutant-who-must-not-be-named a demon even though he's not...?

That's very possible.
And I'm willing to overlook the "son of a demon" quote as a sarcastic rolling-of-the-eyes joke referring to the-mutant-who-must-not-be-named from the arc-that-must-not-be-named (like he calls himself 'devilish' sometimes).....as long as Marvel isn't really trying to make him into a demon hybrid. But the 'I-don't-know-if-I-have-a-soul' thing has me concerned. I don't think a Catholic (ex-priest in training) would question whether or not he had a soul.....and now that I'm thinking about it, what he said is all so mega-wrong. I mean he couldn't have been carrying the soulsword inside of him AT ALL if he didn't have a soul....and an "unpolluted" one at that!
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To Neling:
Right now the only acronym I can come up with is MAD (Mutants Aren't Demons!) But I think that's because.....well.... I'm mad.