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Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 2:49 pm

This is all assuming Marvel is still going with the idea that his wall-crawling powers are still based around the teleportation field that surrounds him.

For those who don't know, Marvel was originally going with this idea that Nightcrawler had suction cups on his hands. That of course made little sense and was done about 15 years ago. But lately they've switched to this idea that Nightcrawler wall-crawling works by the teleportation field. And it works something like this.

The dimension that Nightcrawler teleports in and out of constantly surrounds him. That's why he always (or at least should always) appear to be in dark shadows. It's because that dimension is constantly sucking in light from around him. The wall-crawling theory is that not only is it sucking in light, but trying to suck in matters as well. So whenever Kurt sticks to a wall, that teleportation field is trying to suck in the matter and thus Kurt sticks.

There's also a flaw in this idea too. Since glass is essentially matter and doesn't explain why he can't walk on it.

So, out of the blue really, I thought of the only thing that seperates glass from any other hard service - volume.

When Nightcrawler sticks to an object, there's always a significant amount of mass behind it. Even walls inside a building can be pretty thick. But with glass, not only is it thin, there's really nothing behind it but open space.

So my theory is that Nightcrawler can't stick to glass because behind the glass there isn't enough matter for his teleportation field to suck in. Almost like it's asking Nightcrawler to walk on air.

So do you think my theory that Nightcrawler can't walk on glass due to glass not having significant mass behind it is a decent theory?

littlebamf · Post by **littlebamf** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 3:18 pm

I know why he can't walk on glass-
often you see 'crawler whithout shoes, so he'd cut his elfy feet, thus he dosen't walk on glass.

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Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 5:48 pm

kurtlover · Post by **kurtlover** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 10:31 pm

Actually it make sense to me a lot

specially if you noticed than he used to walk on the walls and ceilings wearing shoes and glooves with his classic uniform.

Nightcrawler ZERO · Post by **Nightcrawler ZERO** » Thu Jan 02, 2003 11:45 pm

And I'm assuming his invisibility power comes from the dimension sucking in light on one side of him, and spitting it out on the other, like a fiber-optic cable? Now we just need to link his agility to his teleportation power and we're all set.

Hsu · Post by **Hsu** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 12:07 am

I don't think it spat the light out. It just sucked it in from all sides. Like a mini blackhole, only...not because that's not how blackholes work. :p

Speaking of fiber optic cables, did anyone see Die Another Day? I want an invisible car like that.

Nightcrawler ZERO · Post by **Nightcrawler ZERO** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 12:17 am

If it just sucked in the light, kurt would appear as a walking sillohuette (is that how you spell it?)

Erynne · Post by **Erynne** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 7:17 pm

Well, wait, if the teleportation thing was what makes him stick to stuff....wouldn't he stick to people he was shaking hands with or something?

Kurt: Nice to meet you
Person: Pleasures all mine.
Kurt: ........
Person: Uhh.....you can let go of my hand now...
Kurt: sorry, I can't.
Person: Why?
Kurt: Something about some teleportation field or something.
Person: Crap.

Nandireya · Post by **Nandireya** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:36 pm

It is stated that he can't stick to anything frictionless...been shown too...

The matter-sucking bit could still work...maybe it needs to sort of seep in a bit...and the suction's not so strong that he can't let go...

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:46 pm

I have that comic. Also the issue with Magnus where Kurt slips in the forest because the explosion left the ground frictionless. But either theory (suction or portal) has continuity flaws. I just figured my idea would be more up to date since I haven't seen him slip on a non-glass frictionless service in quite some time.

Erynne · Post by **Erynne** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:24 pm

This is a little off topic, but what was he thinking about Jean for? I think I read that issue but I can't remember what happened. Someone want to clue me in?

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 5:38 am

That was all during the Dark Phoenix storyline and he was worried about her.

jogurt · Post by **jogurt** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 7:59 pm

: I think he should walk on glas!
http://de.geocities.com/bluefuzzyguy/crawler.html
And actually I liked the succer theorie...
http://de.geocities.com/bluefuzzyguy/suc.html
(jk) but it was fun to make jokes about:D :p

swordwhalewalking · Post by **swordwhalewalking** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:51 pm

There's an odd bit of science trivia floating around in my head that glass is actually an extremely slow moving liquid....

Spiderman vs 'Crawler, who would win the wallcrawling contest????

Magic Rabbit · Post by **Magic Rabbit** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:24 am

Thanks for the link Bamf Bunny. (oh and I love the Colossus Bunny avatar!)

NightPoofer · Post by **NightPoofer** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:03 pm

That stuff kinda makes sense but it kinda dosen't... It kinda makes me confused about it. Maybe when the switched off the writers of the comix, they weren't compeletely clear on how Nightcrawlers power worked. Then again, they haven't really cleared that up yet.

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:28 am

What I don't understand: Is the suction fo the other dimention coming from inside of him (which would make more sense in bamfing) because if it is, then the suction of light would not only cause him to look like he's in the dark, but things close to him, like a kind of bubble of darkness surrounding him, Sorry if I'm rambling, it makes sense to me.

Magic Rabbit · Post by **Magic Rabbit** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:10 pm

Hee! Well the explaination all depends on which writer is writing Kurt, and whether or not the next writer wants to pick up or trash previously established history!

Plot Master anyone?

NightPoofer · Post by **NightPoofer** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:23 pm

The writers like to make their own things about the characters they're talking about... If I was the writer of Kurt, some of you might not like him anymore. I'm a bery bery bad wrider

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:31 am

There should just be a Big Ol' Factoid sheet explaining EVERYthing about him so that stupid writers can't screw up logic and make contradictions.

~*Aspen*~ · Post by **~*Aspen*~** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:25 pm

Dude, that makes..perfect sense!
What if the glass was really, really thick? Would that work? LoL

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:25 pm

What makes perfect sense? Not something I said?!

Nightie77 · Post by **Nightie77** » Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:56 am

it made snese to me gaz
i mean
its logical
but
thats what i think
i never really read the comics
so i dont know squat about comic kurt

Salinea · Post by **Salinea** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:24 am

Kurt probably can't walk on glass or stick to it because normal panes are too thin for his transportation field to adhere to. That feild is what creates the suction or the ability to walk on the walls because they are strong enough to support whatever amount of weight is forced onto the surface so he can actually move about. Thus, he doesn't try to walk on glass because it would shatter from the weight he puts on it unless it was thick enough. At least that's my theory. Also, on the topic of glass and chemistry, even though it's not a slowly moving liquid...it still moves, as does everything else at an atomic level unless you froze an object to zero degree's on the...I think Kelvin (I know it starts with a K) scale of temperature. At that point, the atoms stop moving completely. I hope I didn't get too technical..wait I did, but oh well. Life goes on.

kurtsbaby · Post by **kurtsbaby** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:56 am

[Edited on 12.12.11 by kurtsbaby]

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