How high/far can Nightcrawler jump?

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 2:20 pm

I remember when Marvel.com bio used to say he could jump a total of 8 feet. But I just recently went back there, and apparently they took it down. I'm personally not complaining since I always thought 8 feet seemed a bit low. But does anyone have an idea of how high Nightcrawler can jump?

Dark Bamf · Post by **Dark Bamf** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 6:40 pm

I already answered this once recently, but maybe it was over at X-Fan. When I did the character designs I specified that Nightcrawler could do a thirty foot standing broadjump and nearly that vertically as well. If you look back at some of my issues you'll see him airborne in chaotic fight scenes. He jumped a lot in those days.

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Nightcrawler ZERO · Post by **Nightcrawler ZERO** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:20 pm

Yeah, well- Limits change. During Casey's run, Kurt 'ported from Paris to Bavaria- with a passenger!

kurtlover · Post by **kurtlover** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:58 pm

Originally posted by Dark Bamf
I already answered this once recently, but maybe it was over at X-Fan. When I did the character designs I specified that Nightcrawler could do a thirty foot standing broadjump and nearly that vertically as well. If you look back at some of my issues you'll see him airborne in chaotic fight scenes. He jumped a lot in those days.

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that's right! i remember particular scenes, when he fought the sentinels and the Ani men, that was pure gold hehe

now i think many writers underestimate him very much

i know there's more powerful mutants but he's not that weak

and specially in X-men evolution he's more weak than my grandma trying to go to the second floor using the stairs.

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Frumious Bandersnatch · Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:33 am

In the comics he's an adult, in Evo he's a 15yr old teenager. There's a diffrence.

Garble · Post by **Garble** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:29 am

And in Evolution he's out-leaped Toad and Beast....

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 2:17 am

I already answered this once recently, but maybe it was over at X-Fan. When I did the character designs I specified that Nightcrawler could do a thirty foot standing broadjump and nearly that vertically as well. If you look back at some of my issues you'll see him airborne in chaotic fight scenes. He jumped a lot in those days.

I noticed that in issue 2 of his limited series where he was jumping around those stone snakes. Those were indeed some giant leaps. The last time I can recall Nightcrawler making a really big leap is the issues of Excalibur where he fights the troll leader. Now THOSE were some huge leaps. But I also noticed that on Marvel's site was that in Spider-Man's bio he can leap 32 feet (although I haven't recently checked to see if it still says that). So if they made Spider-Man 32 feet, I don't even want to imagine how badly they dropped Kurt's stats. Then again, Marvel.com hasn't been right thus far, so who cares?

Dark Bamf · Post by **Dark Bamf** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 4:55 am

There was editorial tampering with Kurt even during my first run on the book. Shooter decreed that Kurt had too many powers, and something had to go. He decided that we had to lose either the teleportation or the disappearing in shadows. I wasn't willing to let the bamfing go, so for a long time there were no shadow powers at all. They did get re-introduced later, thank goodness.

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Panz · Post by **Panz** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 5:00 am

Depends on whats chasin' him...heeheehee!
sorry I couldnt resist.

bepalin · Post by **bepalin** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 4:20 pm

In regards to what Dark Bamf said about them taking away Kurts powers because he had "too many", I think he deserved more powers!
HES FREAKY LOOKING!! Just about everyones scared of him! Its just cosmic compensation that his other mutations kick butt! Well at least thats my take on it. *shrug*

LOL

Nightcrawler ZERO · Post by **Nightcrawler ZERO** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:39 pm

Is the vanishing power back? Last I knew, it was retconned as "He has Dark Fur." Well- with the secondary mutation craze, it could be re-introduced, and fixed in place.

Post by **Slarti** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:53 pm

Yeah, in this age of super-super-powered mutants, you'd think he could at least get his original powers back. The last time I remember seeing a run-down of his powers was in Excalibur, with Alan Davis. Davis went to pains to catalog and explain Kurt's powers, including the shadow-vanishing. But that was, what, mid-90's?

silvermouse · Post by **silvermouse** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:26 am

I like the vanishing bit, gives the cool idea of the glowing eyes peering from shadows.

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:49 am

There was editorial tampering with Kurt even during my first run on the book. Shooter decreed that Kurt had too many powers, and something had to go. He decided that we had to lose either the teleportation or the disappearing in shadows. I wasn't willing to let the bamfing go, so for a long time there were no shadow powers at all. They did get re-introduced later, thank goodness.

Really, I don't get the idea of constantly changing and re-arranging a person's powers. Is it really so hard for an editor to look back on continuity and make a half way decent assumption as to what a character's power level is based on what he's done? Nightcrawler's powers/abilities have been written and re-written so many times it's not even funny anymore. I'm still kinda scared to see what he's currently like in X-Men.

Post by **Elwing** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 7:02 am

hmm. The last time I saw the shadow vanishing thing was in CC's X-men #101.

Born Blue · Post by **Born Blue** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:05 pm

It's also apparently where he learned to see in the dark as well.

little Blue Lucy · Post by **little Blue Lucy** » Mon Sep 09, 2002 4:11 am

Those were always to me two things that were really awesome about Nighty (the blending and seeing in the dark)!