So he's a Scorpio...

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So he's a Scorpio...

Postby Norvegica » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:44 am

As if he could get any cooler in my eyes. Well he did. He shares the same sign as me! HEEHEE.

The really interesting thing is that his personality is so similar to various traits that the sign traditionally has. Darker aspects are present in AU versions. It's funny to be reading and going "Yep, yep, uh huh, yep, definitely Kurt, oh god, they're sucking information from Cockrum's psyche!"

So here are the most detailed write ups I could find about Scorpios.

LIKES
Truth
Hidden Causes
Being involved
Work That is Meaningful
Being Persuasive
DISLIKES
Being Given Only Surface data
Taken Advantage of
Demeaning Jobs
Shallow Relationships
Flattery and Flattering

Scorpios are the most intense, profound, powerful characters in the zodiac. Even when they appear self-controlled and calm there is a seething intensity of emotional energy under the placid exterior. They are like the volcano not far under the surface of a calm sea, it may burst into eruption at any moment. But those of us who are particularly perceptive will be aware of the harnessed aggression, the immense forcefulness, magnetic intensity, and often strangely hypnotic personality under the tranquil, but watchful composure of Scorpio. In conventional social gatherings they are pleasant to be with, thoughtful in conversation, dignified, and reserved, yet affable and courteous; they sometimes possess penetrating eyes which make their shyer companions feel naked and defenseless before them.

In their everyday behavior they give the appearance of being withdrawn from the center of activity, yet those who know them will recognize the watchfulness that is part of their character. They need great self-discipline, because they are able to recognize the qualities in themselves that make them different from other humans, and to know their utterly conventional natures can be used for great good, or great evil. Their tenacity and willpower are immense, their depth of character and passionate conviction overwhelming, yet they are deeply sensitive and easily moved by their emotions. Their sensitivity, together with a propensity for extreme likes and dislikes make them easily hurt, quick to detect insult or injury to themselves (often when none is intended) and easily aroused to ferocious anger. This may express itself in such destructive speech or action that they make lifelong enemies by their outspokenness, for they find it difficult not to be overly critical of anything or anyone to whom they take a dislike.

They can harness their abundant energy constructively, tempering their self-confidence with shrewdness and their ambition with magnanimity toward others provided they like them. They relate to fellow workers only as leaders and can be blunt to those they dislike to the point of cruelty. In fact they are not above expressing vindictiveness in deliberate cruelty. They are too demanding, too unforgiving of faults in others, perhaps because they are not aware of the shortcomings within themselves, and extravagantly express their self-disgust in unreasonable resentment against their fellows. They do, however, make excellent friends, provided that their companions do nothing to impugn the honor of which Scorpios are very jealous. Part of the negative side of the Scorpio nature is a tendency to discard friends once they cease to be useful, but the decent native is aware of, and fights this tendency.

They are fortunate in that their strong reasoning powers are tempered with imagination and intuition, and these gifts, together with critical perception and analytical capacity, can enable the Scorpions to penetrate to profundities beyond the average. They have a better chance of becoming geniuses than the natives of any other sign.But charismatic "twice-born" characters such as they can sink into the extremes of depravity if they take the wrong path, and the intensity of their nature exaggerates their harmful tendencies into vices far greater than the normal.
Rebelliousness against all conventions, political extremism to the point where hatred of the Establishment makes them utterly unscrupulous terrorists. Brooding resentment, aggressive and sadistic brutality, total arrogance, morbid jealousy, extreme volatility of temperament, these are some of their vices. At the other extreme is the procrastinator, the man or woman who is capable of so much that they do nothing and become indolent and self-indulgent, requiring extravagant praise and flattery from those whom they make their cronies.

Being so gifted, they can find fulfillment in many employments. Their inner intensity can result in the ice-cold self-control and detachment of the surgeon, the concentration of the research scientist, and the heroism of the soldier. Any profession in which analysis, investigation, research, dealing with practicalities, and the solving of mysteries are relevant, can appeal to them. So police and detective work, espionage and counterespionage, the law, physics or psychology may attract them, and they can become masters of the written and spoken word. They may be most persuasive orators and find fulfillment as diplomats or preachers and, if they make the Church their profession, their inner intensity can express itself in the spiritual fervor of the mystic or the thaumaturgy.

Scorpio is the symbol of sex and Scorpios are passionate lovers, the most sensually energetic of all the signs. For them, union with the beloved is a sacrament, an "outward and visible sign of an inward and spiritual grace.". Their overriding urge in loving is to use their power to penetrate beyond themselves and to lose themselves sexually in their partners in an almost mystical ecstasy, thus discovering the meaning of that union which is greater than individuality, and is a marriage of the spirit as well as of flesh. They are thus capable of the greatest heights of passionate transport, but debauchery and perversion are always dangers, and Scorpios can become sadistic monsters of sensuality and eroticism. Their feelings are so intense that even when their love is of the highest, and most idealistic kind, they are nevertheless frequently protagonists in tragic, even violent romances, "star-crossed lovers".



This next page is riddled with typos. But they took their material from a good astrology book, so...http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/libr ... corpio.htm
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So he's a Scorpio...

Postby love_of_bob » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:48 am

That does sound a lot like Kurt. At least when Alan Davis is involved.

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Postby The Drastic Spastic » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:46 am

Are you two high? NONE of this relates back to the original. Maybe half of it could apply to AoA Kurt.

Give me one FULL sentence out of there that could concievably be applied to the original. There's bits (like "penetrating eyes" :rolleyes) but the rest? Not even.

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So he's a Scorpio...

Postby love_of_bob » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:07 am

Originally posted by The Drastic Spastic
Are you two high? NONE of this relates back to the original. Maybe half of it could apply to AoA Kurt.

Give me one FULL sentence out of there that could concievably be applied to the original. There's bits (like "penetrating eyes" :rolleyes) but the rest? Not even.

*exits thread in disgust*


--Even when they appear self-controlled and calm there is a seething intensity of emotional energy under the placid exterior.--

--In conventional social gatherings they are pleasant to be with, thoughtful in conversation, dignified, and reserved, yet affable and courteous; they sometimes possess penetrating eyes which make their shyer companions feel naked and defenseless before them.--

--They need great self-discipline, because they are able to recognize the qualities in themselves that make them different from other humans, and to know their utterly conventional natures can be used for great good, or great evil.--

--Their tenacity and willpower are immense, their depth of character and passionate conviction overwhelming, yet they are deeply sensitive and easily moved by their emotions.--

--They are fortunate in that their strong reasoning powers are tempered with imagination and intuition, and these gifts, together with critical perception and analytical capacity, can enable the Scorpions to penetrate to profundities beyond the average.--

=Kurt.

Everything doesn't apply, but it rarely does to anyone. The key seems to be "intensely emotional but very disciplined", which is pretty much exactly what the captions say in Excalibur #62 when Kurt cuts loose (Written by Alan Davis) and it had been SHOWN in every Excalibur issue prior to that:

"Passion held in check by rigorous discipline, both in the pursuit of physical and intellectual perfection and in an unwavering code of honor of responsibility to his duty and to those he loves. Boiling emotions usually hidden far beneath a facade of cavalier humor explode in violent rage." (quote from Excalibur #62)

I'm not interested in astrology, but I am interested in Kurt and that's Kurt to me.
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Postby Saint Kurt » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:22 am

Applying horoscopes to people is a sketchy business so applying them to a comic book character who has been written and drawn by ... I'm not going to count ... a lot of people over several decades is going to be seriously sketchy. Especially when they are that detailed. But hey, if it turns you on... Go for it. I think Nightcrawler is one of the coolest fictional characters created so whatever makes him better for you is okay by me.

(Though perhaps things like creating a "Nightcrawler religion" or considering him your "husband and the father of your children" might be taking things too far. Luckily, as far as I know, no one has done these things with Nightcrawler. Yet. ;))

I will say that the beginning of November is always a fun time around here because Nightcrawler's, Dave Cockrum's, and my birthday all fall on the same day. And then Darick Robertson, who drew Nightcrawler's solo series last year has a birthday two days later.

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Postby love_of_bob » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:52 am

Originally posted by Saint Kurt
Applying horoscopes to people is a sketchy business so applying them to a comic book character who has been written and drawn by ... I'm not going to count ... a lot of people over several decades is going to be seriously sketchy.


Very true, but somehow that makes it even more fun?

Is Kurt really that sketchy a character, though? Maybe my mind is just filling in the blanks, but he seems fairly well-rounded to me. How do you see Kurt?
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Postby Saint Kurt » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:38 am

Originally posted by love_of_bob
Is Kurt really that sketchy a character, though? Maybe my mind is just filling in the blanks, but he seems fairly well-rounded to me. How do you see Kurt?


huh? I believe I already gave my opinion in this thread

Originally posted by Saint Kurt
I think Nightcrawler is one of the coolest fictional characters created.


My use of the word "sketchy" applied the using the horoscope for anybody, particularly comic book characters who, no matter how well fleshed out are the product of multiple authors/artists and therefore bound to be a little bit off here and there.

Then again I also said:

Originally posted by Saint Kurt
But hey, if it [the horoscope] turns you on... Go for it. .... whatever makes him better for you is okay by me.


So no worries.

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Postby flashbang13 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:26 am

oh. that's so wierd, most of the scorpios i've met are kinda selfish and underhanded, though that might be because gemini and scorpio don't ' click'

Besides, Kurt's dark side hardly gets the better of him
Me: Do people that have sex with you get rug burn?
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Postby Ult_Sm86 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:43 am

Horoscopes are naturally vague, their purpose is that if you read it you can apply it to yourself because it's intense vagueness.

It's not a science by any means, it's just for fun.

This works on a lot of levels and it's completely opposite on many more. That's how horoscopes are.
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Postby flashbang13 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:26 pm

yeah. You even have signs for every planet, and they can all be totally different XD
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