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originally posted by Diablo

OK. I'm on holidays, so I gathered all the informations I had got about Kurt's circus. It is called der Jahrmarkt"

Circus performers :

. Amanda Sefton/Jimaine Szardos, acrobat, witch. She now rules Limboes as Magik II. She carries the Soulsword. (first appeared in Uncanny#98)

. Margali Szardos, gypsy witch, guardian of the Winding Way. (Uncanny Annual#4)

. Stefan Szardos, magic talents (Uncanny Annual#4). deceased.

. Jutta. a young and fanatic girl who controls fire. (Marvel Comics Presents#101). killed by Wolverine.

. Sabu, Kurt's trapeze master. (Uncanny Origins #7). killed by Margali.

. Haus, a giant. (Excalibur# Minus 1)

. Kirkegaard, siamese brothers. (Exc#-1)

. Feuer, firebreather (Exc #-1), revealed later as "Feuer Langhausen" (Uncanny#407)

. A tall, thin, unnamed woman (Exc#-1)

. A big man with a moustache. He announces the artists (in french, we would call him "Monsieur Loyal")

. Werner, a handsome acrobat (but he's only in the movie version of the circus) (X2 Prequel : Nightcrawler)

Other characters :

. Amos Jardine, the millionaire who bought the circus and who wanted Kurt to become the star of his new freak show. (Uncanny origins#7)

. there is also a friend of Kurt named "Christian", who Kurt knows since he's 6 and who now has a son. But he doesn't belong to the circus. (Excalibur#77)
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Someone may already have got this, but "der Jahrmarkt" means "the fair" in German. It's probably not the name of the circus.
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Kirkegaard? Nice name. Means Grawe Yard in norwegean.

I think the name of the circus was Meredic (something like that)
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I Believe he said "Munich Circus"

(As in the city in Germany)
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I watcht the episode 318 - Nightcrawler, wen I sudenly saw this frame. I tok a screeshot. They cald the circus Wagners circus. But I gues it only counts for the cartoon wersion.
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Post by nightcrawlers_girl »

I thought he said Munich circus as well. I have it on a Russian DVD! :surprise mwah ha ha ha ha! I guess its different in the comics and all, but I wouldnt know. :)
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He does indeed say "Munich circus" according to the script as it is reprinted in "The Art of X2"
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well..in a pic I have from X2..he's in the church with posters of him that have "Circus Gehlhaar" on them...perhaps that's the one.....:rolleyes
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I noticed this too; he says (repeatedly, I might add...:LOL) that "...in the Munich Circus...", and yet the posters say "Gehlhaar". What's up with this?

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When he says "Munich circus" he might not be stating the official name of the circus but simply describing it to people who wouldn't know it by name.

It's a circus, it's either in Munich or it originated there, so it's the Munich Circus.
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Good theory, Garble!

Speaking of Gehlhaar, what does it mean? Can anyone look it up?

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Ah, but the thing is, movie-verses, comic-verses, cartoon-verses, etc., are bound to be different with anything. It is fairly rare for different versions of things to be exactly the same in all the different versions.
"Jahrmarkt" is probably correct in the comic-verse, "Gelhaar" is correct in the movie-verse, ect.
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And in the X-Men Evolution version he was newer in the circus. (at least newer metioned it)
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WHOA. Wait up!! Since when has Evo. Kurt been in the circus?!

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So far, very little of Evo Kurt's life prior to joing the X-Men has been seen.
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I've seen all the Evo. episodes, and not once has it mentioned Evo. Kurt being in the circus.

Back on topic: Isn't the new chick, Magik II, also in Exiles?

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No, the Magik in Exhiles is an Illyana from an alternate universe.

She's a different person entirely from Amanda Sefton
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Ah. I just noticed the same name, "Magik II". :?

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. Werner, a handsome acrobat (but he's only in the movie version of the circus) (X2 Prequel : Nightcrawler)
what do you mean with that? "X2 Prequel : Nightcrawler"???? :shocked
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Originally posted by Wannabe_Kurt
what do you mean with that? "X2 Prequel : Nightcrawler"???? :shocked
Right before X2 came out, there was a comic released having to do with Nightcrawler's background in the movie. It dealt with his circus troupe and how he got into Stryker's control. It was significantly longer that a single-issue comic and cost over $10. There was a Wolverine prequel too, according to miss Nacht.
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your prequel cost you over $10?? :o the cover price on mine is $3.50 American, $5.75 Canadian... sure you didn't get the trade that collected the NC prequel, Wolverine prequel and movie adaptation?

but it IS longer, it is 44 pages of story with 48 pages total including ads (50 counting the insides of the cover), vs the typical 22/23 story pages/32 pages with ads...
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Ah. I just noticed the same name, "Magik II". :?

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Originally posted by Bamfette
your prequel cost you over $10?? :o the cover price on mine is $3.50 American, $5.75 Canadian... sure you didn't get the trade that collected the NC prequel, Wolverine prequel and movie adaptation?
Hehe, oops. I don't own it, I only glanced at a rack of the X-titles specials, I must be confusing the Nightcrawler prequel with the trade compilation. That's for setting me straight.
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Actually, the extremely flexible woman who was shown in Excalibur minus 1 was also shown in X-men Unlimited issue 19. Her name is Gummi.
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Originally posted by Bamfette
your prequel cost you over $10?? :o the cover price on mine is $3.50 American, $5.75 Canadian... sure you didn't get the trade that collected the NC prequel, Wolverine prequel and movie adaptation?

but it IS longer, it is 44 pages of story with 48 pages total including ads (50 counting the insides of the cover), vs the typical 22/23 story pages/32 pages with ads...
Originally posted by Siona
Ah. I just noticed the same name, "Magik II". :?

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Magik WAS Illyana Rasputin, Colossus' little sister. that roll had her guarding over Limbo, a hell-like dimension... then Illyana died of the legacy virus, and Amanda through an odd set of circumstances ended up filling Illyana's former roll. hence the 'II' part, she is the second Magik. the Magik currently in Exiles is technically 'Magik III' for purpose of cataloguing characters, but in her dimension, she is still the first Magik.
I paid $15, it had the Comic version of the movie, Wolverine prequel, and NC prequel. It had no adds in it and it was long.
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Gehlhaar is a German surname.

There's a German composer named Rolf Gehlhaar who studied under Karlheinz Stockhausen in the 60s and still writes music today.

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